depression comix #120
this is such bullshit, sorry
Care to elaborate?
putting the responsibility of suicide on others to the point of calling it murder is fucking ridiculous.
If one is bullied to the point where they no longer want to live, don’t the bullies have some kind of responsibility for this?
Saying murder is just killing someone directly with a physical weapon is a narrow definition, and forgives those who attack others with more psychological weapons.
If one dies because they are bullied to that point, it’s no accident. I hope that by calling it murder, it brings attention to the serious consequences of bullying.
Calling it murder is wrong on so many levels it’s not even funny. The word “murder” has a clear definition. You’re just twisting it to get attention. That’s not a nice (or sane) way to get a discussion going. I don’t know about the US, but in Russia you can get in trouble if your intentional actions were clearly the reason someone commited suicide. And guess what: it’s not called “murder”. It’s a different crime punished by a different degree. Then there’s the problem of the depcom itself. It basically reads like this: ”A girl got drunk at a party, couldn’t control herself too well, got fucked and then recorded on camera in the process”. That’s not rape. As much as some people would want that to be, as much as they twist words around and issue laws that say that’s rape, it is not. It is the girl’s own damn fault as much as the guys’ who fucked her in that state. They all are drunk fucking morons I personally have no sympathy towards.
I was told by Julie not to feed the trolls, but I’m in a fighting mood.
“Calling it murder is wrong on so many levels it’s not even funny.” Meaningless sentence. There are no levels. This is the kind of sentence one uses when they don’t have a point.
“The word “murder” has a clear definition.”Yes, it does. Especially the part about “with malice or forethought” and “Reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life”. if one is raped and then bullied to the point of suicide then there is a case here. There are enough examples in the news of how bullying has led people to suicide for people to generally understand that bullying is a major cause of it. That’s right. Bullying causes suicide. Geez, that’s all over the news here in Japan, maybe they understand the connection more than other places. If you bully someone, you are participating in something that has a high risk to the life of the victim. If they die because of it, it could be third-degree murder. You may think this is stretching it, but I believe a motivated lawyer could make the case.
“You’re just twisting it to get attention.” That’s an odd assumption, made by someone who appears to believe that attention has some kind of currency. I don’t know why attention is so important to you that you have to project this on other people, but trust me, other people do not feel this way. I make no money on this or how many notes I get so it feels more like you’re just trying to make a cheap shot more than anything (like the sane comment; my degree is in psychology and I assure you I have credentials in determining sanity).
“ I don’t know about the US, but in Russia you can get in trouble if your intentional actions were clearly the reason someone commited suicide.” I don’t know about the US either, I’m from Canada. Why are you bringing this up? Another assumption?
“And guess what: it’s not called “murder”. It’s a different crime punished by a different degree.” Good for Russia. Completely irrelevant to the rest of us.
“Then there’s the problem of the depcom itself. It basically reads like this: ”A girl got drunk at a party, couldn’t control herself too well, got fucked and then recorded on camera in the process”. Most people who read recent news got that it was about Rehtaeh Parsons, a girl from my home country who was gang raped, photographed during the rape, had the pictures shared by her schoolmates and her life made a living hell until she was forced to kill herself to avoid the bullying. That you didn’t understand this is forgivable considering you’re from Russia, but the personal attacks you felt you had to indulge in make it less so. And look at what you wrote: “ couldn’t control herself too well”. That is rape culture right there. No, it was the boys who couldn’t control themselves. Finger pointing at the woman reveals the misogyny right there.
This is the thing that pisses me off. A girl gets drunk at a party. So it’s okay to gang rape her? Why isn’t it the obvious thing to help her out and make sure she stays safe?
“That’s not rape. As much as some people would want that to be, as much as they twist words around and issue laws that say that’s rape, it is not. ” In Canada, where I am from and where this story is, it is rape. intoxicated people cannot legally consent to sex here and if you have sex with an intoxicated person you can be charged with sexual assault. In Russia, you have your own laws, enjoy them. They are irrelevant to this strip and the circumstances under which it was drawn.
“ It is the girl’s own damn fault as much as the guys’ who fucked her in that state. They all are drunk fucking morons I personally have no sympathy towards.”
This is what a rape apologist looks like. If a girl gets raped, it’s her own fault apparently.
I wish there were people like you, Clay.